Posts by Silent Lion

    Merry Chistmas! Yes, we do. Christmas day is normally at the dad-in-law's, but every year we put up a little tree in the corner of our apartment. We bought it the first few months we got together and even though it's falling apart, we string it up anyway. For the longest time it was a tradition to stuff so much chocolate down my face that I woke up in the middle of the night and sprint-crawled to the toilet to vomit it back out. Buuuut for the past five or six years I just don't fancy doing that anymore.

    I think that porn has it's place and use. For single adults, or for couples in their relationships, it can help out. However, I'm one of those ladies that pretty much doesn't watch porn and if I'm in a relationship with a guy, I expect him not to watch it either. I'm very upfront about it very early on (pretty much the first two weeks in), and tell him if he'd rather watch porn I'd rather be with someone else or alone. I know other people in relationships can watch it together and be perfectly happy. I'm just not one of them. I give him time and leniency, but if him and I are going to be a thing... Well, he has to respect that part of me. Even saying it now seems unreasonable and childish, but I can't help how I feel. There's some give and take in every relationship. I just wish I was mature enough to not be hurt by my boyfriend watching porn. But it hurts my feelings and my self esteem.

    I'm completely the same. Luckily for me, my wife also feels the same. But I don't think it has anything to do with maturity. It's just a personal quirk. Some things upset us, other things don't. We could retrain ourselves not to be hurt by it and maybe never quite succeed, or we could just be honest and take porn out of the relationship. It seems easier and simpler, I don't see why there should be any obligation to change. Out of interest, do you have the same trouble with hentai? We find that we can watch that. Mostly because it's so ridiculous it's funny, but also because it's not real - it derives its... whatever it is... from the imagination of the situation or whatever.

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    For me, I just don't find an interest in it. I'd rather spend my time on other things. There's probably at least a couple million other things I'd rather do than sit down to watch some porn. I don't think it's bad, but I do think it places unrealistic expectations on both men and women and how they can/should act during sex. I know that reasonable adults can separate porn from reality, but I think on a whole (considering the masses are generally braindead) most people consider what the pornstars do obtainable fantasies that they can try to impose on their significant other.

    Now this for me is a huge grey area. I used to be a huge porn watcher before I got with my significant other. Because I enjoyed it so much, I found ways to believe it was harmless. Now that I'm more distanced from it, my confirmation bias has eased off a little. I do believe porn creates emotionally harmful expectations, in that nobody feels good enough, especially women who are usually the stars of the media. But on the other hand, I could say the same for all types of media, especially the fashion world. Granted, it's more extreme with porn, but photoshopped mag pics do a similar thing. For that matter, maybe fashion itself should be frowned upon. After all, if physical appearance shouldn't be a factor in how we see people, why dress our bodies up to make them look good in the way we do? Who's opinion are we caring about?

    So, in terms of porn, should it be stopped (if it was possible), or reformed? If body types were picked at random, and porn was full of large people, little people etc, would that fix the problem? Or would the porn companies that featured more 'attractive' bodies end up making more money?

    What I disagree with is people being against sexuality for some high and mighty notion of ettiquette or properness. That whole Victorian good and bad taste thing really gets on me.

    @Kaynil , perhaps can I suggest some formal rules regarding debating etiquette? I know it's a pain but there doesn't seem to be much understanding about how to conduct a debate or what its purpose is.

    @Servo
    About this whole God thing. I'm answering because I'm an atheist, and I wish to be involved in this discussion, and so I have to address what you're saying about God. I do my hardest not to hurt people and to help the people I love. That proves that I have some sort of morality. So, if you follow what I'm saying, there are two possibilities: 1) There is a God. God gives me my morality, even if I don't know it. If that's true, my morality comes from the same place as your morality, and so we can all talk about morality and porn. Or 2) There is no God, and morality is a question of what each person works out for themselves. Is this is true, we can still talk about porn and morality. So, if there's a god or if there's not a god, it shouldn't make any difference to this discussion, because either way we can still talk about porn. I hope I'm making sense.

    Want to type more but the baby's just woken up D: I'll check back later.

    Kokiri forest was such an amazing 3D world, until that first glimpse of Hyrule Field *dreamy eyes*
    And that was after spending far too long on Mario64 and Lylat Wars (Starfox 64, you non-brits). I remember the only reason I watched Fellowship of the Ring was because someone said it was a bit like Zelda, so I guess I can thank Nintendo for my other fanboy adventures.

    Well perceptions are highly subjective and can be wrong


    Meaning is a perception. So your perception of meaning can't be wrong, because whatever you perceive your meaning to be, that's what your meaning becomes, right? Aren't they synonymous?

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    and well I said in start I already have found my answer just wanna know yours I'll post mine later


    Pff! Such a tease!

    Also, are you actually advancing a cartesian subjectivist view of reality? It's true that perception plays a larger role in human communication than we commonly like to acknowledge. If I write a sentence and ten people read it, then there will be 11 different thoughts and feelings about that sentence. But if we refuse to even attempt to find a consensus on basic facts because "such is the weakness of language," then discussions are going to be really boring and difficult.

    No, I'm actually not :P , but I can see why you would think I was. To clarify, without digressing too much into the nature of knowledge, I think that the subjectivist viewpoint is appropriate within this conversation, that is, talking exclusively about meaning. As you said yourself, the only meaning life has is the meaning you give it. Therefore meaning is subjective. Therefore subjectivism is relevant. What I'm trying to get across is that meaning, as an experience, is real and valid (because 'I feel, therefore I am'). Yes, it is something that exists only inside your own brain. But all too often the assumption is made that self-generated meaning is 'lower' or 'cosmically less' than objective meaning (if it existed). I disagree with that, which is my point in a nutshell. Subjectivism backs me up. People like Descartes have logically 'proved' the existence of our own sensations, and while subjectivists claim that is all we know and I don't claim that, they are at least right in asserting the validity of my own subjective experiences (such as meaning). After all my waffling, I believe our positions are probably closer than you think.

    My point is that a mechanical act took place. Human semen fertilized a human egg. Any emotional or moral or spiritual trappings that surrounded this occurrence are irrelevant when answering the question "why are we here?" I suppose such additional specificity might be relevant if we were discussing why an individual person is 'here,' but we're talking about humanity as a whole here. Or, at least, the audience of this post as a whole. Specifics have no place.

    The problem for me is how you interpret the question 'why are we born?'. 'Why' can refer to the process, or the intent. If you ask me 'why are your shoelaces tied', I can answer 'because I tied them' or 'so my shoes stay on', depending on what I assume the question to mean - both are valid and correct. There's also no denying that the latter has a place in causing the former to happen (I don't want my shoes to fall off, which caused me to tie them, which caused them to be tied).
    So, 'why were we born?' - taking the first meaning, then yes, a mechanical, biological event caused my conception and latterly my birth. But there is also the other question - 'what was the intention of my being born?' and this is where moral (and psychological) trappings become wholly relevant. My parents chose that I be born when they had sex. Even if someone is unplanned, the mother then choses to keep the baby and give birth. Everything that relates to those decisions is relevant to the question 'why were we born?', if you consider 'why' to refer to intent. My birth was very much intended by someone. And that, I imagine, is true for the vast majority of people.

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