Posts by Silent Lion

  • Ask the next person a question.

    It was English Lit. I'm surprised I remember that after nine years. I was going to skip it because I was feeling lazy and antisocial, but I had a rare moment of conscientiousness and attended.

    That was sixth-form (ages 16-18 or 19 if you failed and had to resit a year... ) which technically counts as higher education in the UK. So if we're talking last day of proper, compulsory school... I really can't remember :/ I suspect it was drama

    Name something you learnt in school which you're glad you know and which most other people probably don't know.

  • What If? :o

    Quote from agnorenad

    Lets see this

    1: What if Darunia was successful in defeating Volvagia?

    Answer: you guys already did answer it but I have to give my piece of information as well, It is true, One cannot be named sage until upon death, an example is Nabooru, Ganondorf's wife, who is murdered by Twinrova infront of player's eyes, and later ascending as a sage, so the scenario is: Darunia wouldn't be a sage and would still be alive, Link will be given the fire medallion by the ancient sage of fire, and his quest will be continued.

    What happened to the ancient sage of fire when Darunia ascended?

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    3: What if Link was too late and arrived after Great Deku Tree's death?

    Answer: Link and Navi will be at loss, as Navi never got the instructions herself, "go get me the boy without a fairy" was the only thing she was told, and with the abstinence of Link who will probably never even leave the forest, Ganondorf will collect the stones from the dead old tree, the rock men who are starving, Darunia will probably give the stone to Ganondorf just to free the caves from dodongos so his people don't die off starvation, Ganondorf will forcefully take it from Princess Ruto as well, but Zelda will escape with Impa, holding the Ocarina of Time, putting Hyrule into a weird state, Ganondorf ruling the land but without true power as he is unable to access the Sacred Realm and the Triforce, and Zelda with Impa hiding in the shadows probably raising an army to strike back at the gerudo. (Whoah this turned into a new game)

    Good answer :)

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    Now let me If.
    What If Tetra and her crew of pirates never went to Outset Island?

    * reminds himself of WW plotline *
    Oh yeah.

    Well, it would have been quite a bit longer before Tetra had any reason to go to the Forsaken Fortress and accidentally reveal herself to Ganon, but assumedly with an adventurous spirit like hers, Tetra wouldn't keep away from it for long, and sooner or later Ganon would have her all tied up. And assumedly at some point he would track down Link, too. Unless of course Tetra sailed off the map entirely and went somewhere else. Hopefully though, Ganon would have been successful and, evil man that he is, would have been able to reclaim thousands of acres of liveable, farmable land for everyone.

    And be evil overlord of it... eh.

  • Some changes are brewing...

    I think this forum is great - you already have a friendly and welcoming group of people here. Of course, you probably need a lot more of those to keep it active, but that's something I have no idea how to achieve. That's up to you, boss!

    Anyway, just wanted to say I'll always be lurking! I 'joined' your community several times in the past and this time I'm staying.
    Do you have a gameplan? Like, a demographic you're going to target? There's quite a few people here around my age or older, and we elderly folk tend to lack the bottomless sack of time that younger folk have to be crazily active.

  • The End Of Change?

    I find AI to be very scary, even more so that climate change. Climate change is a drastic problem indeed, not to detract from that. In the UK it will be illegal to sell new fossil-fueled vehicles after 2040. But that's too little too late - many will still be driving polluting cars for many years after. We can only hope that companies and investors will see which way the wind is blowing and consider it more profitable in the long-term to shift to renewable technologies as quickly as possible (which it will be). But AI is in a whole other league. At least it's conceivable that we could reverse climate change, if we became sufficiently motivated. It's difficult to see given our recent political and economic history, but it is conceivable. If AI goes wrong, I can't even conceive of humans re-liberating themselves, unless machines develop a sense of altruism. Perhaps that's another discussion.

    As a minor point, I would argue that the stabilisation of the population is not due to the planet's limitations but an increase in wellbeing. People with the most food are having the least children. Therefore it seems unlikely that an increase in food availability will result in increased population. Families in developed countries with a high quality of life simply don't want more than 2 children on average, regardless of their ability to support them.

    Your point about cultural stagnation leads me to think about the Fermi paradox. As we watch cultures around the world progress, it seems that the pattern of progression is not arbitrary or random, but goes through identifiable phases. It may be our culture in the west has stagnated because there has been relatively less change, and when AI comes out or other game-changing, uh, changes, it will inspire a cultural reaction.

    As for the Fermi paradox, is there a logical endgame for cultural and social progression? Not necessarily the end of its existence (although we can't rule that out), but a point of equilibrium, where our level of control over our environment and ourselves reaches such a point that we cease to expand? You could call this a straight, unchanging line, or it could be more like a series of repeating, predictable cycles, some lasting a few years, some lasting a century - but all of the cycles will have been accounted for and their effects controlled. Is this a reasonable conclusion from witnessing the pattern of history? If this is so, it would explain the Fermi paradox - it might not be that aliens are non-existent or incapable of making themselves evident, but that all advanced civilisations, if they survive, ultimately turn themselves into a perfectly balanced self-contained equilibrium.
    A correction: someone pointed out to me that an equilibrium was a state of perfect entropy, meaning that it would be difficult/unlikely for the civilisation to contain all the evidence of its existence. But still, the march of civilisation (and the evolution of life in general, for that matter) is in many ways a counter-current to entropy. Increasing conglomerations of energy-demanding order, through to the technologies we continue to develop. But difficult for us conceptually doesn't mean difficult or unadvantageous for them - I can imagine a future where our control over our environment is so complete that happiness and order is achieved with the maximum of efficiency and energy re-use, such that the only traces to leave the system are indistinguishable to us from normal cosmic signals. As a species progresses, perhaps it either hits a 'death gate' and vanishes or retracts many steps, or achieves a state of cyclic order.

    On a related note, as the radio and microwave signals we emit from earth expand in a sphere and become more diffuse, is there a point where the information is lost? Would an alien living at Proxima Centauri be able to tune into Fox News one day, even in principle? If not, that would also explain the Fermi paradox...

  • What If? :o

    All very true. You're probably right. There's a few things though I could never figure out - like what do the sages do between not defeating the boss and being awakened by Link defeating the dungeon? Do they escape the enemy and wander around the Temple waiting for Link to be victorious? Does Rauru or someone else in the Sacred Realm 'hold' them until Link comes along? And if that's true, what happens to Nabooru when she is freed from the Iron Knuckle curse and then the witches blast her? Why would they send her to the sacred realm? Where was she waiting?

    Oh! And here's a new one -
    If Link had been too slow and hadn't gotten to the Great Deku Tree before he died, Link wouldn't have ended up collecting the Spiritual Stones and Ganondorf would never have met with the Triforce and all the upset he caused in every game afterwards would have been avoided, right? ... Right??

    I mean, Ganondorf had already lost patience and given up on all three stones, leaving curses behind as he left.

    ... Right?

  • What If? :o

    I haven't played Minish Cap :/

    Thing is though with Darunia (like any of the sages I guess), I'm not sure he could have been the Sage Of Fire if he'd defeated Volvagia. After all, the sages follow a pattern (excluding maybe Rauru) - Their land/people are in trouble, they go into the temple, fail to defeat the evil within and then communicate with Link only when he has defeated the same evil. The sage in question has now passed into another world and awakened as a sage. The implication is that these people were killed by the temple's boss.

    If that's true, does it then follow that these people could only be sages in death?
    "Because it is destiny that you and I can't live in the same world." - Saria

  • What If? :o

    A Zelda theory game - someone comes up with a what if question, and everyone tries to imagine would would happen. (Does this belong here or in games?)

    So...
    What would have happened if Darunia had defeated Volvagia in OoT?

  • The End Of Change?

    (subtitle: SL Thinks He's A Prophet)

    Despite being probably the only animal that can project into the future, our intuitive projections have the habit of being very simplistic and wracked with bias and an overactive sense for patterns. With that in mind, perhaps we should unpack some of our assumptions about the future of our species and our planet. The main thrust of my view is that change will not accelerate forever - in fact it will begin to slow.

    The most common way in which our projections can be simplistic is in extrapolation. A stunning example of this is population growth. We're all familiar with this pattern:
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3…800_to_2000.png

    And of course, we panic. Before long humans will cover the planet, all green space will be lost and we'll eat our babies. Thankfully, perpetual population explosion is a myth. In about 2011/12 the world reached peak child.
    That means that the number of children in the world today (about 2 billion) is about the most there is likely to be. As societies develop around the world, child mortality and family size tend to fall together. The average children per woman has been falling for some time and is approaching two. Two children per woman means no population growth. (UN stats estimate that, while children will not increase, the population will increase to about 11 billion. That's because the thinner elderly population will be replaced by the larger young population, add a billion for longer life expectancy for children born today to get 11 billion).

    It's a similar story with climate change. Emissions have indeed been increasing somewhat exponentially and the most prosperous countries (those which generally started earliest on the emissions road) are the biggest emitters. However, the emissions are stable. The countries who emit the most per capita are no longer increasing their emissions. Time will tell whether the number will start to go down - given the steady march of technology I'd call it probable. In the meantime, countries with developing industries (China, India) are still going up the 'exponential' part of the emissions climb, so the future looks questionable globally on that front.

    Coming back to how we over-extrapolate, whenever we appear to be on the Oh Shit side of an exponential curve, it turns out that we were instead half way through an S curve.

    All the above isn't much good for a debate. Population and emissions slow-down in the first world is brute fact based on solid statistical data. So I'll do my best to get carried away.

    I believe this s-curve thing applies to cultural change too, and it's something I believe I am witnessing in my own culture. It seems an eternal fact that older people moan about the breakdown of society and that we'll soon be having orgies in the streets. Except, for many of us, the ideological gap between the 40-year-old and the 20-year-old is noticeably smaller than between 40 and 60 year old. Gender equality, sexual liberalism (if not for ourselves then for others), the emergence of casuality (the proper word is casualness, but that sucks) as a virtue and stiff formality as a vice, these are things that cannot be exponential forever. For example, there is a conceptual limit to how equal the genders can be, isn't there? I'm not saying we're all now enlightened neo-hippy-oids. But there has been a clear shift, most rapidly since the second world war, and most people now believe or feel these things, even if we are at different places in terms of execution or acceptance. That certainly couldn't be said a century ago.

    To some extent, I even see the development of language and music homogenizing. Call me crazy. But people are still making music in genres and using slang from when I was a teen as if it was still cool. Since when has that ever been normal? Maybe we're getting off the rails now, as music particularly is a broad and multi-faceted discussion. But in terms of culture (and by extension language), I do want to point out that internet media could drive such a slow-down. Media of the past is instantly recognizable by the format on which it is recorded. Is the movie black and white? Grainy? Dull sepia colour? The slightly inebriated crispness of 90s television at the end of the analogue era? The pixelated impromptu journalism of a 2001 mobile phone? But that is less the case now. A video on Youtube from 2010 looks remarkably similar in quality and style to one today. Unless you consciously check the date, you could passively wander into language and opinions from a decade ago in seamless transition from something published yesterday. It is becoming harder to separate yourself from the content of yesterday, psychologically and physically.

    So there we are.

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