Posts by Aphelion

  • Steam vs. Origin

    Quote from LinkSkywalker

    That would be true if Fallout 4 hadn't come out this year. =P

    It's true that Fallout 4 caused more of a craze that Witcher 3, but I would have to say Witcher 3 has more quality to it.

    Also, I loathe EA, but I like the way they run Origin overall. Steam has upped it's game recently to provide better service to it's customers, which has made me happy.

  • Let's Talk About Fanart

    @Lexatom I hadn't really thought of people with disabilities being a factor here. I mean, it makes a lot of sense that they would be a key factor in addiction to certain media that the person finds favorable, as well as other things in life. Thank you for bringing that perspective. I'll have to remember to apply that thought process to anything I find offense with in the future.

    @LinkSkywalker Yeah, sorry about not replying, but I'm really trying to think of the best ways to reply. Especially to your post, since you went particularly in-depth. I'll do my best to reply without sounding like a belligerent nincompoop.

    "Long story short, my opinion is that while overweight people are a socially oppressed group in America, that oppression is honestly pretty mild. It's not right that fat people are treated the way they (we) are, but that doesn't make thin drawings of fat characters the equivalent of putting on a minstrel show."

    I hadn't thought of overweight people as a social group to be honest. I'll be frank and say that I've always expressed my concerns for overweight people (just as I have for anyone who I believe may be at a health risk, including my extremely skinny friend who weighs probably like 87 pounds). It's probably hypocritical, especially when I'm not exactly a beacon of well-living myself. What exactly do you mean by minstrel show in this context? Sorry, I'd like to get the exact meaning instead of interpreting it wrongly. :]

    "An honest attempt at interpreting a piece of art is never a morally wrong thing to do. If you see a picture of thin Ursula and you believe it's an expression of hatred towards fat people, you're not a bad person for expressing that belief."

    But that would be an assumption without knowing the artist's true intentions. I feel like that is a knee-jerk reaction that could be avoided, but probably never will be since the world is built on quick reactions. If I drew a thin version of Ursula and I did it merely based on the fact that I'm bad at drawing overweight people but wanted to draw her desperately because she's my favorite Disney villain, etc. I wouldn't appreciate people just assuming things about me, such as being a person who hates fat people. (Let me tell you something, drawing fat people is HARD. I've tried many times. :/) It would dissuade me from ever wanting to put my art up anywhere. It stymies the flow of creativity and makes people like myself reluctant to share artwork. I'd rather be critiqued on the actual composition of the art than the "moral" reasons behind it. I know you can't always get what you want though. :/

    "Fortunately, no matter how strong her language is. No matter how many times she says that people "can't" make things she disagrees with, they can. She can get angry about it, but she can't actually stop it. In my experience, people like this are a very, very, very, very vocal minority. Not a lot of people actually think this way, and those who do think this way usually grow out of it."

    Unfortunately, she can rally people to turn against the artists who draw things that she disagrees with and thus begins harassment and bullying. People can dig up personal information, spread it all over the internet, and very real crimes begin to happen to the person who was disagreed with. I'm not saying she would do it, but the fact that it has been done is scary. So even if she does grow out of it, or if "they" do, in the time that they are like this they are a dangerous group of people to tango with. They have "social justice and equality" on their side so they will very likely get in no to little trouble. As you mentioned in another part of your post,

    "Consider an extreme example: It's 1850 in the American south. Slavery is going strong. A white guy calls a black guy a nigger. We can all agree that this was an act of oppression, yes? Now, same setting, but it's a black guy calling a white guy a cracker.* That's not oppression, that's rebellion! It's heroism! Stand up to that evil, slave-owning white guy, Mr. black guy! You go!"

    It's this line of thought that allows them to be who they are with very little repercussions. They're rebelling against the norms. They're "fighting the good fight". They hurt a lot of people in their wake.

    @Kaynil

    "I think how you interpret a piece of art speaks more about you than the artist. As someone who has drawn and wrote a bit as a hobby, I know that not all I do is a parallel of my own convictions. For a good story I need to create a character that has different points to mine but appropriate for his situation and this character might be the protagonist. It doesn't mean I have an agenda to promote things. Heck, some creations come in the spur of the moment and whatever we were thinking and feeling when they came to life is gone in a few hours. The idea of a perpetual stance with a piece is silly."

    I agree with you. I have to make characters who are things that I don't agree with on a moral level for my art and stories to be good. It is this diversity that makes something so much more real that people can truly connect with. If every character was what I imagined was the "best" or "morally correct" my stories would be bland and unfulfilling.

    "For this Thinsula post it is just appalling she goes to this length to ridicule a person that is basically agreeing with her because her explanation happened to include sentiments geared towards the freedom of art. This person is on a high horse saying she is not asking much when she's basically demanding people to do anything except what she happens to disapprove."

    I also agree with this. You put the words together over all better than I could manage. She is on a high horse, even among her peers she tries to control what they think and do if it's something she slightly disagrees with. It's also done in an extremely aggressive and condescending manner. :/

    Overall, I think that art is meant to be uncontrolled. I think people have a place to express their innermost thoughts and creativity, as long as it is done responsibly and in the appropriate locations (nudity or extreme pornography in artwork should always be put behind a mature filter, etc) just to be courteous to other folks. I'm glad that everyone posted with their own viewpoints on the matter.

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