I found something that you won't find very interesting. Move along.

**Kaynil** · August 30, 2015 at 5:44 AM Official Post

I asked the wayback machine. You guys might care about these urls:

This one has the captures of the early forums.
http://web.archive.org/web/2001120503…lhq.com/forums/

This one is extremely interesting. It is all the urls under the domain it could capture on the lapse of at least 3 years.
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.zcentralhq.com/*

Like this one:
http://web.archive.org/web/2002022514…om/z9pics.shtml
Kilovh and Ashley talking about the The Zelda Windwaker impressions and how it clashed with the Gamecube tech demo.
It is so effing cool~

It is quite interesting seeing the names and layout changes as well as the addition of boards and active members from capture to capture.

This is probably the look around the time I arrived:
http://web.archive.org/web/2002060410…lhq.com/forums/

The change to Spira Online:
http://web.archive.org/web/2002120408…lhq.com/forums/
I had even forgotten Ashley had changed her name to Yuna. And look, we appear as the last posters in some sections!
Hmm Link1512 I knew him from HCA, I wonder how he's doing nowadays. one of the few that rather call me 'nil more so than Kay as a way to shorten my nick.
Other captions have some names that I know were users I kind of new even if we didn't interact yet I forgot about them like *Tooty Fruity*, SSJChibiGohan1212
Then chack again the Top Posters:
http://web.archive.org/web/2003060118…lhq.com/forums/
Six months only between captures and what a difference not only in position but amount of posts.

Then the restarting and back to a Zelda theme:
http://web.archive.org/web/2003080118…lhq.com/forums/
The past users say "Kokiri Girl", it could be that user was me. By then I was a close friend of a certain Kokiri Kid and I do recall joining a few communities with this username after both agreed to join, so this must have been a bit before he joined or maybe @Sardonic Pickle didn't remain active afterwards.

And so, it turned out that the the Dark layout of my capture happened somewhere 2004, when the url; changed from zcentralhq to zeldacentralhq...
http://web.archive.org/web/2004120411…lhq.com/forums/
^Bonus! Check in the sidebar what is the thread with the most views. LS and SP might get a giggle out of it.
It seems like it reminded this way from at least December of 2004.

YES!! ONE CAPTURE OF THE SHOUTBOX!
http://web.archive.org/web/2005050408…cf9783648628121
I think at the bottom are the older shouts.

Sorry if this is too much. I just got excited and started pasting and babbling all over. :XD:

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Quote from LinkSkywalker

There was also a member called Linker I think, who kept getting banned, but kept making new accounts. At some point he prompted me to make this:

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linker is back

i shall absorb all the world's souls- linker

Just found this signature in neo-linker account through this thread:
http://web.archive.org/web/2005052211…hp?postid=21120

Quote from Sardonic Pickle

3. I was more of a GDT (Great Deku Tree forums) guy. Pfft... TSR.

I think you could make a thread to talk about TGDT if you want. There's also for me HCMA ... maybe we need a thread so everyone can talk about those old communities they used to visit, Zelda related or not... or an area to make threads like this to talk about the other origin communities we come from. I am open to suggestions.

_LS_ · August 30, 2015 at 2:39 PM Official Post

Wow, that's a huge collection of material. Nicely collected, Kaynil!

Calian shows up a few times in the Spira Online screenshots. He was one of the first gay people I ever met, and is the one who first forced me to compare my ideas of gay people as shadowy evil-doers, and gay people as real actual people. I like that dude.

Here's one with particular meaning for me. April 2003:

http://web.archive.org/web/2002040202…lhq.com/forums/

There's a subsection for "Hosted Forums" where ZeldaGC and ZeldaConnection's forums are hosted. ZeldaGC is how I eventually found TSR, and you can see my name showing up a few times throughout that snapshot.

**Kaynil** · August 30, 2015 at 11:07 PM Official Post

Quote from LinkSkywalker

There's a subsection for "Hosted Forums" where ZeldaGC and ZeldaConnection's forums are hosted. ZeldaGC is how I eventually found TSR

I was going to ask what did the GC stood for but I just realised it probably stood for Zelda [for the] GameCube. I don't think I had a chance to know that site.
Interesting to see that even then DT7th was already a moderator at TSR, haha.

_LS_ · August 31, 2015 at 2:08 AM Official Post

Yeah, he was a mod by the time I joined.

Zelda GC was never much of anything. It never had that much content on it. It was a brief project, quickly abandoned.

**Kaynil** · August 31, 2015 at 5:15 AM Official Post

Quote from LinkSkywalker

Yeah, he was a mod by the time I joined.

Zelda GC was never much of anything. It never had that much content on it. It was a brief project, quickly abandoned.

That explains why it was abandoned. Was Sheena Linkachu?

_LS_ · August 31, 2015 at 5:27 AM Official Post

I actually have no idea who Linkachu was. Sheena is a good guess.

**Kaynil** · September 7, 2015 at 1:34 AM Official Post

Quote from LinkSkywalker

Oh, and remember that Aerith cosplayer? I think she just went by Aeris on the boards or something. She ended up getting really famous I think. Has been on TV a few times, well known as a cosplayer, stuff like that.

http://cosplay.kotaku.com/final-fantasy-…fect-1723491098
Is her this gal?
I found out I am following some Adella and I am not sure if it is her or just someone else I followed because I really liked her cosplays.

'zilla · September 19, 2015 at 4:26 PM

I remember most of that! Although many details elude me.

Rinny, Rikku (maybe many used that username) and I knew each other well before we came to Spira Online. Rikku invited me, and then I launched an epic post count rivalry with LinkSkywalker. Great times. The girls are still good friends of mine IRL, and we all live in Oslo at the moment.

The purple TSR was such a fancy hi-tech update, I thought at the time. Yet I was somewhat estranged and astonished that the ass Dark The 7th was a moderator.

Still have one of the banners I designed for the purple TSR

**Kaynil** · September 20, 2015 at 9:20 AM Official Post

Quote from 'zilla

Rinny, Rikku (maybe many used that username) and I knew each other well before we came to Spira Online. Rikku invited me, and then I launched an epic post count rivalry with LinkSkywalker. Great times. The girls are still good friends of mine IRL, and we all live in Oslo at the moment.

This is awesome. If you can send them my (our?) regards! :D

Quote from 'zilla

Yet I was somewhat estranged and astonished that the ass Dark The 7th was a moderator.

LOL! Seems like "Charlie" wasn't very popular back in the day. To be honest I am kind of curious to know what he's up to these days.
I owe DT7th my arrival to TSR as I followed him when he quit HCA. He also helped me dig deeper into MM.

_LS_ · September 20, 2015 at 7:59 PM Official Post

Charlie wanted everyone around him to know that he was too cool to care about 'internet stuff.' His favorite passtime seemed to be raining on everyone's parade. I hated him so passionately as a 14 year old; it's ironic that I now agree with him on a lot of the issues we butted heads over.

The last I heard from him was in 2009, when he said he had a child due to be born very soon. The only contact info I ever had for him was his MSN account, and since that's gone, I don't really have any info.

I found the chat logs. I won't post the whole thing, but here's some highlights as of 2009:

[12:11:22] dark_the_7th@msn.com: MISTER SKYWALKER
[12:11:30] LS: Why hello there.
[12:11:35] LS: Never thought I'd see that name again.
[12:11:37] dark_the_7th@msn.com: Why helo there yourself
[12:12:05] LS: How is things?
[12:23:08] dark_the_7th@msn.com: Good, I suppose
[12:23:12] dark_the_7th@msn.com: You?
[12:25:33] LS: Can't complain. Life never goes quite how you've planned, but mine has worked out well enough so far.
[12:25:56] LS: Still trolling oversensetive teenagers in your spare time? =P
[12:27:58] dark_the_7th@msn.com: Nah
[12:28:03] dark_the_7th@msn.com: I hate computers now
[12:28:06] dark_the_7th@msn.com: I never go on them
[12:28:15] dark_the_7th@msn.com: I can't stand being online, really
[12:28:22] dark_the_7th@msn.com: It's too... synthetic?
[12:29:25] LS: I've gone in quite the opposite direction, but I doubt anybody didn't see that coming. =P
[12:29:58] LS: I understand what you mean though. It's not real, and it never will be.
[12:30:30] dark_the_7th@msn.com: Yeah... I'm not surprised.
[12:30:35] dark_the_7th@msn.com: But in truth I like people.
[12:30:40] dark_the_7th@msn.com: I mean
[12:30:41] dark_the_7th@msn.com: I hate them
[12:30:48] dark_the_7th@msn.com: But I'm sympathetic
[12:30:49] dark_the_7th@msn.com: haha
[12:31:01] dark_the_7th@msn.com: I'm going to medical school.
[12:31:13] LS: Congratulations, that's quite an achievement.
[12:31:17] LS: Got pre-med out of the way?
[12:31:36] dark_the_7th@msn.com: Nah, not yet... I only recently decided this
[12:31:49] dark_the_7th@msn.com: I've been kind of in limbo for a while.
[12:32:04] dark_the_7th@msn.com: But I'm registered for the fall.

[12:34:45] dark_the_7th@msn.com: I've been partying for too long.
[12:34:58] dark_the_7th@msn.com: I was in a band that was getting kind of big but I just quit.
[12:35:17] dark_the_7th@msn.com: I'm twenty-fucking-one now... I'm sick of kids.

[12:42:32] dark_the_7th@msn.com: Yeah, basically I lived in Texas for a while, got addicted to drugs, became homeless and then found out my mom was insane and everything she ever told me was a lie
[12:42:57] dark_the_7th@msn.com: Then lived in a fifth wheel behind a laundromat with the crazy laundromat lady
[12:43:16] dark_the_7th@msn.com: Lost my mind and then had delusions about being Jesus and bringing about the end of the world
[12:43:19] dark_the_7th@msn.com: Y'know, same old.
[12:43:22] dark_the_7th@msn.com: lmfao
[12:43:35] LS: Sounds like good times.
[12:43:40] dark_the_7th@msn.com: Not really
[12:43:54] dark_the_7th@msn.com: But after I recovered I kind of had a new love for helping people.
[12:44:38] dark_the_7th@msn.com: So now I'm in Alaska, I'm about to have a daughter and I'm going to med school. o.O
[12:44:41] dark_the_7th@msn.com: lmao
[12:45:36] LS: Congratulations on all of it. Sounds like you've had some shitty times, and coming back from that can be hard.
[12:46:14] dark_the_7th@msn.com: Oh fuck it was.
[12:46:28] dark_the_7th@msn.com: When I first came up to Alaska I was ready to blow my brains out.
[12:46:47] dark_the_7th@msn.com: I mean, c'mon... "Yeah Charlie, everything you were raised on was a lie." Haha
[12:48:56] dark_the_7th@msn.com: But anyway
[12:49:07] dark_the_7th@msn.com: I don't mean to bich about my life
[12:49:21] dark_the_7th@msn.com: But it's weird catching-up with someone who knew me well when I was 14.

_LS_ · September 20, 2015 at 7:59 PM Official Post

ALSO: I just found this. Check out #3 from the top:

http://elthamlittletheatre.org.au/productions/pr…uickies/actors/

**Kaynil** · September 20, 2015 at 11:42 PM Official Post

Oh damn my lazy numeric smilies got in the way of the pasted chatlog, haha.

Quote from LinkSkywalker

ALSO: I just found this. Check out #3 from the top:

http://elthamlittletheatre.org.au/productions/pr…uickies/actors/

That is our Del. No doubt about it. Nice to know she's doing what she likes to do.
If it wasn't for @Sardonic Pickle I wouldn't know her real name was Madeleine.
I will probably always relate her to that Adult Zelda avatar.

_LS_ · September 21, 2015 at 1:39 AM Official Post

She and I were close. At least I thought we were, I've never been able to tell if she didn't like us that much, or if she felt guilty for lying about her identity for so long. And creating an entire fictional sister was pretty nuts, to be sure.

She eventually told me her real name, but I didn't find out Annabelle was fake until you told me, Kaynil.

Someday I'd love to hash things out with her.

Sardonic Pickle · September 21, 2015 at 6:03 PM

Quote from Kaynil

Oh damn my lazy numeric smilies got in the way of the pasted chatlog, haha.

That is our Del. No doubt about it. Nice to know she's doing what she likes to do.
If it wasn't for @Sardonic Pickle I wouldn't know her real name was Madeleine.
I will probably always relate her to that Adult Zelda avatar.

An actor now? "now?" lol

Pekachew · October 10, 2015 at 11:39 AM

*Touches the screen gently staring at the old forum slowly, trying not to cry*

**Kaynil** · October 11, 2015 at 11:58 AM Official Post

Did someone order cheesy sauce?

Pekachew · October 11, 2015 at 5:04 PM

Quote from Kaynil

Did someone order cheesy sauce?

; ^ ; cri evertome

**Kaynil** · October 11, 2015 at 9:41 PM Official Post

Quote from LinkSkywalker

She and I were close. At least I thought we were, I've never been able to tell if she didn't like us that much, or if she felt guilty for lying about her identity for so long. And creating an entire fictional sister was pretty nuts, to be sure.

She eventually told me her real name, but I didn't find out Annabelle was fake until you told me, Kaynil.

Someday I'd love to hash things out with her.

I think many of us would love to, Personally it is more for remembrance, "Remember our stupid shit when we were teenagers? lol", than feeling she owes an explanation. I was not as close to her as @Sardonic Pickle and you were outside the community, but she was still part of my circle nonetheless.

For her fake sister issue, I think it just went out of control. As far as I know she created Annabelle to get back to HCA. In a funny twist everybody soon trusted her and left their suspicion behind to the point of making her a moderator. I don't blame her for doing her best not to screw her chances at that moment. I think before she knew it she was already posting and making bonds with everybody as two alter egos. by the time HCA went down, she probably was afraid of the leash out and possibility of abandonment from the very friends she had made through those years. Also, Belle was taking over her online life. It is my impression people were generally more attracted to Belle than "her".They trusted better Belle than her. Belle had this trustworthy, mature and kind aura to her than PZ. I don't think she maliciously laughed behind our backs and was just trying to keep up the charade out of not wanting to face the consequences of us discovering the truth.

Quote from Sardonic Pickle

An actor now? "now?" lol

Quiet, you.
Anyway, do you think she'll mind this thread if I tried to contact her and link her here?
To be honest, she was a huge part of our lives. It would be awesome to have her around sometime.

_LS_ · October 11, 2015 at 10:49 PM Official Post

Quote from Kaynil

For her fake sister issue, I think it just went out of control. As far as I know she created Annabelle to get back to HCA. In a funny twist everybody soon trusted her and left their suspicion behind to the point of making her a moderator. I don't blame her for doing her best not to screw her chances at that moment. I think before she knew it she was already posting and making bonds with everybody as two alter egos. by the time HCA went down, she probably was afraid of the leash out and possibility of abandonment from the very friends she had made through those years. Also, Belle was taking over her online life. It is my impression people were generally more attracted to Belle than "her".They trusted better Belle than her. Belle had this trustworthy, mature and kind aura to her than PZ. I don't think she maliciously laughed behind our backs and was just trying to keep up the charade out of not wanting to face the consequences of us discovering the truth.

That's exactly what I think as well. "Annabelle" wasn't a trick; it was a tool. A tool that got out of hand. I can't help but wonder if the reason she eventually dropped out of sight was because she felt ashamed, and I would like for her to know that it's fine. We were all stupid kids, and I don't hold it against her.

There were a few times when I was talking to one sister, and the other sister would immediately know what we were talking about. I always just assumed they were sharing information. Was a total mindfuck when I found out they were the same person.

And no, I don't think she should have any issue with anything we've said here. Charlie might, but I doubt we'd invite him or that he'd want to hang out anyway. =P

Pekachew · October 11, 2015 at 10:53 PM

Annabelle = Illuminati