• That mean that we humans always try to find explanations for bad deeds we do , that is why we try to justify whatever we do and than we brain wash ourselves with that justification for whatever we are doing !!

    No hard feelings bro and no offense meant just explaining my point of view

    Well I do have a tumblur but never used it and as usual it wud be servo as far as i Think not sure though lol

    Beauty is just the deception of the eye, if I cant see the ugliest and most beautiful are equal

  • Certainly not in an intimate way. But I have this crazy belief that children are people, and deserve to be treated with frankness. The same way I would treat any adult.

    Do you want a link to my porn blog? Well you can't have that. But am I embarrassed or coy about the fact that I have a porn blog, thereby perpetuating the idea that porn is somehow shameful? No.

  • Oh NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO @LinkSkywalker has been brain washed to no point of return lol hahahahahahahahahaha JK JK
    well I think porn is a bad thing we can talk long hours even days over it and you will not agree to my point and I wont to yours so lets just do both of u s a favor and lets just respect each other ideas rite?

    so respect my idea u r a pervert ( lol ) hahahahahahahahahah jk

    Beauty is just the deception of the eye, if I cant see the ugliest and most beautiful are equal

  • I don't appreciate being labelled a pervert. Nor do I appreciate the intimation that my beliefs are unjustifiable. I'm fairly lucky in that as a writer, I can simply hide behind a pseudonym. But this sort of anti-porn sentiment causes real harm to the people who are well known sex workers, some of whom are my friends.

    If you want to agree to disagree, that's fine. But don't make cheap parting shots at me as you do it.

  • @LinkSkywalker
    I'm very sorry I did not mean to hurt you and yeah I think its my mistake I should not have given my opinion, I was not asked ,I don't know why did I ever post it well . Please forgive me for hurting your feelings that pervert part was just a joke, I was only trying to break the ice between us and it just backfired it was not intentional so I'm really sorry

    and about my opinion well its still the same I consider pron to be Immoral and well that is that lets just not talk about it again

    Beauty is just the deception of the eye, if I cant see the ugliest and most beautiful are equal

  • It's fine to disagree with me, dude. I'm an extremely opinionated person and I'm not shy about sharing my views. This is a discussion forum. We're here to discuss things, and most of those things will involve some kind of disagreement. You think porn is immoral. As both a pornographer and an ethicist, I strongly disagree with you. If you want to hash that out, I'm certain we can have a very friendly, enjoyable discussion on the topic. I'd really like that!

    I understand you did not intend to insult me, and I accept your apology. Don't worry aboit breaking the ice with me, dude. I like you just fine.

  • Nothing so profitable. I write erotic microfiction, which has garnered me a fairly decent following. I term myself a 'pornographer,' because I make smut. I do not consider myself a sex worker, because at no point have I myself been the 'product.'

    I do know a few sex workers / porn stars. Though only in passing really. I'm not close with any of them, but I am passionate about promoting their rights and breaking down the social barriers they face.

  • Thanx I'm glad there is no more but wait if there is no more ice means we have fallen into the ice cold water ........
    About the subject well any discussion will be pointless but I don't think bad of sex worker , for whatever reasons it is their profession so I don't really hate them I do remember talking to one sex worker for a few days I hold nothing against them but you know there will always be social barriers because everyone has a right to do whatever they want to provided they don't hurt others so yea the people that creates barrier has full right to think its immoral , but I do agree on one point they should have full rights likes all of us have although I don't think they will ever get the same social respect

    Beauty is just the deception of the eye, if I cant see the ugliest and most beautiful are equal

  • But see, now you're doing it again.

    You say you don't want to have a discussion:

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    any discussion will be pointless

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    people that creates barrier has full right to think its immoral , but I do agree on one point they should have full rights likes all of us have although I don't think they will ever get the same social respect

    It's one or the other, man. Either you get to say "I don't want to have a discussion" and stay out of it. Or you get to make arguments on the subject at hand. You can't do both. You can't sit on the sidelines taking potshots at the team you don't like. Either you're in, or you're out. And whether or not you want to have this discussion, I feel it is necessary for me to address this point:

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    you know there will always be social barriers

    I get there is a language barrier between us, so I don't want to assume bad faith. But this sounds as though you're presupposing my agreement with your statement. Putting words in my mouth. Please do not do this. I do not accept that there will always be social barriers for sex workers. Those social barriers are entirely artificial, and only persist because our culture clings to bronze age sexual ideals which are currently dying a very quick death.

  • I don't know what that means. Please explain.


    I think Ala was just mocking around and not being serious.
    Is it a hot button for you that people even joke about it because it is still based on the idea that porn is bad?

    we can talk long hours even days over it and you will not agree to my point and I wont to yours so lets just do both of us a favor and lets just respect each other ideas rite?

    Hmm, you seem to be into this weird idea that we cannot have an argument about it without respecting that other people have different views. It can totally happen and become an interesting exchange. I know it helps me challenge my own notions and stop seeing black and white other people's opinions.

    I think its my mistake I should not have given my opinion, I was not asked ,I don't know why did I ever post it

    Unless you're being abusive or disregarding of the community and the rules if a thread is open you're meant to express your opinion if you feel compelled to, just like LS said.

    That mean that we humans always try to find explanations for bad deeds we do , that is why we try to justify whatever we do and than we brain wash ourselves with that justification for whatever we are doing !! [...] I consider pron to be Immoral

    I am really curious to know where are you coming from, would you mind elaborate why do you think porn is immoral?
    It sounds to me like you have a very strong opinion regarding this but are defensive about people picking apart your reasoning. We might counter with the way we think but it won't be a personal attack or trying to force you to change your mind.
    Either way it is good to talk about our beliefs and rationalizations to correct and reaffirm our own ideas. Otherwise topics like this become taboo and paradigms. It is healthy to question and understand why we think the way we do, and a good way is exchanging ideas.

  • I think Ala was just mocking around and not being serious.
    Is it a hot button for you that people even joke about it because it is still based on the idea that porn is bad?

    I am passionate about this issue, but I wasn't expressing anger when I asked Ala to explain himself. I really want to know what he was attempting to communicate in that post. I want to see it explained in his words so we can talk about it. I think there are a lot of assumptions there that are worth unpacking.